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Old Jul 23, 2006, 06:20 PM // 18:20   #21
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Frenzy? Seriously? Good way to get wasted quick, fast, and in a hurry - you take double damage from sources that ignore armor and thus have no variation in damage.

Frenzy in Final Master? Wtf? Why not "For Great Justice!"? The build isn't heavy on energy and "For Great Justice!" lasts longer and thus uses less energy than Frenzy anyway, and couple that with not turning you into a human pincussion just asking for it, it is hard to decide between it and FGJ!'s 45 second recharge.
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Nice builds, this will help out newer players a lot.
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 06:29 PM // 18:29   #22
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They won't implement popular builds as direct premades
Sure they will. IIRC, this entire move was in response to complaints about pathetic premades.
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 06:36 PM // 18:36   #23
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Heh, I was just playing a Hex-Breaker/"Charge!" Sword Warrior last week. I was feeling all smug about being somewhat original, too. Then I see it in an obs match.... and then I see it's one of the new pre-mades.

How long has it been common knowledge?

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Old Jul 23, 2006, 06:41 PM // 18:41   #24
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Heh, I was just playing a Hex-Breaker/"Charge!" Sword Warrior last week. I was feeling all smug about being somewhat original, too. Then I see it in an obs match.... and then I see it's one of the new pre-mades.

How long has it been common knowledge?

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Old Jul 23, 2006, 06:56 PM // 18:56   #25
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Nice builds.
The "Blinding Prodigy" and the "Warrior's Anquish" will cause a serious decline of PVP Warriors though as soon as they're Premade Builds ^^
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 07:02 PM // 19:02   #26
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Easy builds for everyone to use, yay
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 07:05 PM // 19:05   #27
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 07:39 PM // 19:39   #28
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Finally, some new premades and nice ones too for the newcomers to PvP and the game.
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 08:37 PM // 20:37   #29
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Wow, looks like a good line up.. can't wait!
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 09:48 PM // 21:48   #30
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I can't wait to see "Bring Back The Old Premades" petitions in the suggestions forum. We'll see plenty of idiots complaining about how the new warriors can't survive nearly as long as the paladin, and therefore, the new warriors are inferior.
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 09:57 PM // 21:57   #31
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So are these officail?I don't mind some of them but they are more to a median type player not beginner.I am glad I do have lots of skil unloced to make up my own as I am not a big fan of the shock warrior.The Crip Ranger I would rather use punishing shot.
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 10:24 PM // 22:24   #32
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If you are a warrior and you don't know how to use Frenzy + Sprint/Rush/etc... Press F12.
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 10:41 PM // 22:41   #33
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These prebuilds are roughly better than I thought they would be. Remember when they removed flame slinger prebuild when they changed kindle arrows? Keep that in mind.

I was hoping for a medium between god awful (current prebuilds) and relatively good (your average RA players comprehension of a really good build).

Crippling shot ranger is going to really be annoying. As if enough sadistic newbs don't use the trapper prebuild for griefing.. here comes griefing build 2.0

These builds are also going to take more of the skill out of RA and add more luck. With these prebuilds everybody is going to be using tham now instead of their current incredibly bad, crappy build and make for more of an even playing field for better players.

Once these prebuilds are released if I EVER have another wammo on my team I will be highly pissed.
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 10:50 PM // 22:50   #34
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Some of these premades seem a little too oriented towards GvG or HA. For instance, HP in RA? please. Also, ressurect is generally a bad idea outside of GvG.

Besides a couple minor complaints (including the fact that yes these should be slightly gimped IMO), nice. Basically, can see the major parts of the metagame (or the recent metagame) in these premades.
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 11:17 PM // 23:17   #35
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If you are a warrior and you don't know how to use Frenzy + Sprint/Rush/etc... Press F12.
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 11:28 PM // 23:28   #36
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Well, the frenzy/healsig shock warrior could be an amusing replacement to wammos in RA, for tombs its not bad tho, just drop out the axe rake and heal sig and put in an interrupt or two.
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 11:32 PM // 23:32   #37
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The Crip Ranger I would rather use punishing shot.
Crippleshot Ranger with punishing shot?

I like those new premades.

Those are very good builds i think, and imo it's better for a newbie to start with a new build, with which you learn more about pvp then to start with a paladin.
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 11:38 PM // 23:38   #38
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Once these prebuilds are released if I EVER have another wammo on my team I will be highly pissed.
Then steel yourself for high intensity annoyance/anger in the future <_< Many of the W/Mo's are paladin premades... But many are also definitely PvE warriors, carrying rare skinned equipment who have almost certainly progressed quite far into to PvE game and have access to a wide array of skills and equipment.

That is to say, they willingly choose to use W/Mo tank builds, rather than having limited choice due to the premades.

I have nothing against the paladin variant builds personally, and while I question their value in any form of PvP, I don't think they'll ever truly vanish so long as the concept of 'tanking' exists in PvP, and so long as people feel that as long as THEY are alive, they're doing well.


As for these builds... None contain skills I have yet to unlock, so none of them help me. However, they look solid for use in a variety of PvP types, so even the newest player should be able to jump in and try Team, Random, HoH and GvG competitively. Obviously, practice will help significantly, in addition to rune and equipment unlocks, but all in due time.
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 11:40 PM // 23:40   #39
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Frenzy is pretty much the best warrior skill. If you die while using it, there is only one reason for that, you suck nuts at this game.
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 11:41 PM // 23:41   #40
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Heh, I was just playing a Hex-Breaker/"Charge!" Sword Warrior last week. I was feeling all smug about being somewhat original, too. Then I see it in an obs match.... and then I see it's one of the new pre-mades.

How long has it been common knowledge?

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It has been known for a while, but it isn't the most popular of builds. Really only ever seen in run in the higher level GvG teams.
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